Geocentricity vs Heliocentricity?



It is rather obvious that Earth was the only physical object in the entire Universe back in the beginning of Biblically-recorded history (being that Genesis 1:1 states that "IN THE BEGINNING, GOD created the heavens AND THE EARTH"). There was no "prehistoric" history before that, because that would be semantically illogical.

It is also interesting to note that Genesis chapter one does NOT state: ". . . and there was sunrise and sunset . . ." but instead: ". . . and there was evening and there was morning . . . " which is especially true for the first three days of Creation Week during which the sun, moon, and stars had not yet been created. The Hebrew word "yom" (pronounced yohm) in Genesis chapter one designates a 24-hour-only period "day" with or without the Sun existing.

Reference to "the Sun, Moon, and ELEVEN "stars" bowing down to Joseph" (in Genesis 37:9) is NOT AT ALL proof of geocentricity in terms of astrophysical positioning of those celestial bodies, but clearly is metaphorical symbolism having to do with prophetic familial hierarchy, being that such celestial objects do not have any body parts to bow down with. And the eleven stars mentioned probably was symbolic of the Pluto-excluded planets of the Solar System.

The Scriptural passage . . .

He who made the Pleiades and Orion, and turns deep darkness into the morning, and darkens the day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out upon the surface of the earth, the LORD is his name . . . (Amos 5:8)

. . .states there nothing about Sun "rising and setting" but infers there is another cause (the Earth rotating on it's axis) for what causes the darkness to turn into morning and darkening day into night.

Knowing the principle of centrifugal force, it is physically impossible for the massive Sun and planets and galaxies to revolve around the Earth, because like a sling swung round and round the only thing preventing the rock inside the sling from flying off is the strength of the binding and if that breaks, off goes the stone and part of the sling. Earth's very weak gravitational force is phenomenally insufficient to hold celestial objects especially light-years distant supposedly revolving around it from flying off into space.

A heliocentric view of Earth positioning, especially with the visual proof of NASA photographs, especially from the Moon landing, is the only plausible and sensible astrophysical perspective to embrace. And yes, the Earth is NOT flat!

People wonder why the resurrected Jesus did not reveal Himself alive to the accursed pharisees who had Him crucified (with the blinding-light exception of master-Pharisee Saint Paul on the road to Damascus).

Some have stated: "there is no scientific nor historical basis for the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

They fail to admit that there is PLENTY of both scientific AND historical evidence for Christ's resurrection.

The Old-Testament-quoted-in-New-Testament book of Job is obviously the greatest natural-science text of all time, as is the contents of Ecclesiastes.

And the entire Bible itself is clearly and obviously the greatest and most reliable historical text ever written, and the intricate scientific notation of the music and lyrics of a requiem mass or work of painted or sculpted art are good examples.

Scripture itself exposes the foolishness of absurd doubts and lying claims of fraud or mere mythology from various disreputable perpetrators:

"All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him." (Matthew 11:27)

After this Jesus went about in Galilee; he would not go about in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill Him.
So His brothers said to Him, "Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples may see the works you are doing.
For no man works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world."
For even his brothers did not believe in Him. (John 7:1,3-5)

If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Counselor, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because they neither see Him nor know Him; you know Him, for He resides with you, and will be in you.
Yet a little while, and the world will see me no more, but you will see me; because I live, you will live also.
He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me; and he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him."
Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?"
Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. (John 14:15-17,19,21-23)

"Science" is a simple or complex audible and/or written description, using commonly-understood symbols such as letters comprising English or Latin or other words, or numbers such as in mathematical equations, of phenomena of existing objects or motion which can be directly or indirectly detected by sight, sound, smell, and/or touch:

"Where is He who has been born king of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East, and have come to worship Him." (Matthew 2:2)

And amazement seized them all, and they glorified God and were filled with awe, saying, "We have seen strange things today." (Luke 5:26)

Very truthfully, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen; but you do not receive our testimony. (John 3:11)

So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in His side, I will not believe.
Jesus said to him, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." (John 20:25,29)

. . . for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard." (Acts 4:20)

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon and touched with our hands, regarding the Word of Life:
the life was made manifest, and we saw it, and testify to it, and proclaim to you the eternal life which was with the Father and was made manifest to us:
that which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you may have fellowship with us; and our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. (First John 1:1-3)

And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son as the Savior of the world. (First John 4:14)

Some phenomena or events of reality have happened only once in existence, and will never happen again with the exact parameters and context such actually did occur, so they cannot be re-seen, re-heard, nor re-felt . . . but that does not mean that they did not actually occur when they did occur.

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[ Haaretz article by David B. Green posted on 07.10.2015 ] =

October 7, 3761 B.C.E., is the date on which the world was created – according to the Hebrew calendar that governs the passage of time among the Jewish people.

The calculation of the year is fairly simple to understand; how the precise day and month were arrived at is a little more complicated.

According to the Hebrew calendar, the year just begun is 5776. If we subtract 2015 – the current year in the secular, or Gregorian, calendar – from that, we arrive at Year One being 3761 B.C.E. (before the Common Era).

That date, of course, is not based on fossil dating. It was, rather, calculated from the references to time, including the life-spans of individuals, that are given in the Hebrew Bible (the chronology of Scripture).

It is generally accepted that the sage Rabbi Yose ben Halafta is one who made the calculation. He was a tanna, a sage of the Mishnaic period, who lived in Sepphoris, a town in the Galilee, in the 2nd century C.E.

Yose ben Halafta was one of the principal students of Rabbi Akiva, the most revered rabbinical figure of his time. Rabbi Yose was in turn the teacher of Rabbi Yehuda Hanasi, who would become the chief editor of the Mishnah, one of whose most frequently cited rabbis is Ben Halafta. He is commonly accepted as the author of the book Seder Olam (“Order of the World,” sometimes called Seder Olam Rabba, the “Great Order of the World,” to distinguish it from a later work with the same name), a history that attempts to give dates to all of the people and events mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, and up to Rabbi Yose’s time, which coincided with the Bar-Kochba Revolt of 132 C.E.

According to Rabbi Yose’s understanding of the Book of Genesis, the process of Creation began on Elul 25 of Year 1. The sixth day, when Adam and Eve were created, was on the first day of Tishrei - which is when the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashana, is celebrated – of Year 2.

Since the Hebrew system of dating purports to begin at the Beginning, this system follows the number of a Hebrew year with Hebrew phrase “lebri’at ha’olam” – Hebrew for, “since the world’s creation.” By R. Yose’s method, the creation of man took place in 3760 B.C.E.

For Rabbi Yose, the only relevant source is the Bible. He does not attempt to reconcile it with any other chronology, but rather, to make sense of and quantify the chronology as it presented in Scripture.

Yet Rabbi Yose’s system did not gain common usage among Jews until the medieval period.

At the time the Talmud and Seder Olam were being compiled, when Jews wanted to refer to the year, they used the secular dating of the Seleucid, or Greek, era, also referred to as the Era of Contracts.

Only after the center of Jewish life had moved to Europe did Jews began enumerating years going back to the presumed date of creation, as determined by Yose ben Halafata.

It was left to Maimonides, the 12th-century Jewish philosopher and scientist, to set the precise parameters of this system.

In his Mishneh Torah, Maimonides wrote that all calculations of dates should be based on "the third day of Nisan in this present year ... which is the year 4938 of the creation of the world" – which correlated to March 22, 1178, C.E. It is his system that continues to be in use today, not only for calculating the Hebrew year, but also for coordinating it with the lunar cycle that determines the months.

According to Maimonides’ calculations, the beginning of creation was in Hebrew Year 0 (referred to as “Anno Mundi 0” in Latin), and the creation of humans was in Anno Mundi Hebrew Year, or Anno Mundi 1, which corresponds to 3761 B.C.E.

A recent Twin Cities Creation Science lecture involved mathematical and semantical explanation along with some elaboration on the nucleonic physics models conceived and developed by Common Sense scientists Lucas and Bergman pertaining to the concept of interconnected positive and negative "charged-fiber" magnetic fields in constantly-changing solitonal motion.

Note that the correct terminology is NOT "electromagnetic" fields, but instead "positive and negative" magnetic fields, being that other subatomic entities besides electrons are comprised of and react as energy fields having positive-and-negative characteristics of attraction and repulsion.

Such explanation of the essential nature and operation of subatomic phenomena is congruent with observed description of the reality of not merely those infinitesimal entities of the microcosmos but also of the macrocosmos, and resolve the paradox of contemplating the minute components of so-called "objects" of "mass" as being both organized-energy "particles" and "radiating waves."

Description of such closely-or-distantly-interconnected and inter-reactive charged-fiber magnetic fields in toroidal "corkscrew" manueuvering in the identifiable forms of protons, neutrons, electrons, quarks, and an ever-increasing host of additional subatomic "particles" fully explains what "things" or "stuff" were formerly and inadequately described by, such as the Bohr imagery of proton/neutron/electron "substances" but perplexing as to their non-explainable properties, characteristics, and interactions.

Aforementioned Lucas and Bergman nucleonic models are quite and thankfully concordant with various laws of physics, and such truth as no two "objects" can occupy the same space at the same time ultimately, and of necessity, leads to and culminates in Scriptural enlightenment, such as:

Genesis 1:9 And God said: "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.

Proverbs 30:32 If you have been foolish, exalting yourself, or if you have been devising evil, put your hand on your mouth.
Proverbs 30:33 For pressing milk produces curds, pressing the nose produces blood, and pressing anger produces strife.

Ecclesiastes 11:3 If the clouds are full of rain, they empty themselves on the earth; and if a tree falls to the south or to the north, in the place where the tree falls, there it will lie.

Isaiah 11:12 He will raise an ensign for the nations [remember the Sea Symphony lyrics of poet Ralph Waldo Emerson set to music by Ralph Vaughn Williams], and will assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners [east, south, west, and north] of the Earth.

Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to reside in...

Colossians 1:16 ...in Him [NOT: "her"] all things were created, in heaven and on Earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities...all things were created through Him [Christ Jesus, Son of God] and for Him.
Colossians 1:17 [Jesus Christ] is before all things, and in Him all things hold together [subatomically and nucleonically, regarding both cohesion and adhesion].

Ephesians 5:13 ...but when anything is exposed by the light it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light [charged-field radiation involving continuous subatomic orbital fluctuations].

Hebrews 11:3 By faith we understand that the world was created by the Word of God, so that what is seen was made out of things which do not appear [charged-field radiation involving continuous subatomic orbital fluctuations].

Second Peter 3:5 [Scoffers] deliberately ignore this fact, that by the Word of God heavens existed long ago, and an earth stood out of water and in water,
6 by which the world then existing overflowed with water and perished.
7 But by the same word the heavens and Earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of Judgment and destruction of godless humans.
8 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one "day" is as [NOT: "equal to"] a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slow about His promise as some misregard slowness, but is patient toward you, not wanting any to perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Revelation 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing at the "four corners" of the Earth, holding back the "four winds of the Earth," that no breeze might blow on Earth or sea or against any tree.

Second Peter 3:10 But the Day of the Lord will happen like a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, in which the Earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
11 Being aware that all these things are to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
12 waiting for and expediting the coming of the Day of God, within which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will be incinerated with fire.

Revelation 20:11 Then I saw a Great White Throne and Him who sat upon it; from His presence Earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.

Precise Biblical language is crucial.

There are doctrinal problems contrary to plainly-and-simply-understood Bible verses pertaining to the reliable and non-changing nature of God the Creator and both fixed and perfectly-consistent characteristics of all that He has created and impeccably-consistently maintains involving and against claims of slightly-or-significantly-decreasing light-speed velocity and universal gravitational-force gradually weakening.

The claim for our consideration does not relate to varying distances and amounts of "mass" interacting in acceleration or deceleration from one another, but regarding the intrinsic field force emanating from each "particle" (or better yet: field) of mass itself.

Besides the crucial doctrinal disparities concerning claims of variable light speed and intrinsic gravitational force, the are common-sense impossibilities and absurdities also.

To illustrate, IF it were possible to "travel" (or: go) back in time and alter even the slightest historical event already recorded as history in human memory and various types of preserved-record media, EVERYTHING in EXISTENCE - of NECESSITY - would ALSO change (ALL being INTERDEPENDENT)...however slightly or grossly.

IF the velocity of light was EVEN SLIGHTLY different than what is was and has been at ANY point in the past, ALL past observations of SPACE and TIME PLUS the ENTIRETY of ALL events occurring therein would be somewhat or drastically altered contrary to having-already-occurred history and historical records.

ANY supposed even-"slight" change in either "c" (the always-has-been/always-is-now/always-will-be velocity of light) along with similarly-"slight" change in the extent and amount and duration of universal gravitational force would have both IMMEDIATE and CUMULATIVE dire and catastrophic effect, clearly resulting in soon-to-inevitable annihilation of or against humanity.

Thus, ALREADY-recorded events in the Bible would, of necessity, be subject to CONFUSING and UNCERTAIN alteration as to EXACTLY WHEN and WHERE and UNDER WHAT PRECISE CONDITIONS they in fact occurred.

Consider the creation of "stars" on the FOURTH Day of Creation Week as recorded in Genesis chapter 1.

Assuming (NOT "presuming") - logically - that light speed remained constant in attempting to explain how and why we now observe mere "starlight" from assumed mega-million/billion-light-years-distant stars and galaxies they are thought to have and perhaps or probably yet do emanate from, substantiation for created-in-transit constant-velocity starlight (assumed related to their mega-million/billion-light-years-distant stars and galaxies) is NEITHER "phony" nor "deceptive" -- because the ongoing and constantly-incoming starlight assumed to be associated with such assumed-to-yet-exist stars and galaxies gives us human observers TRUTHFUL and REAL incoming and ongoing info which is neither "fake" nor "imaginary."

The fallen and sinful corruption of humanity, from the Garden of Eden on, has not, does not, and cannot alter the immutable non-changing and non-changeable will and intents of God the Sovereign Creator, even and especially related to His PERFECTLY-constant-and-consistent light-speed velocity and NON-deteriorating universal gravitational force.

Psalm 74:17 You have fixed all the bounds of the Earth; you have made summer and winter.

Psalm 119:89 Forever, Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.

Psalm 148:6 And He established them forever and ever; He fixed their bounds which cannot be passed.

Jeremiah 31:35 Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the Lord of hosts is his name:

Jeremiah 31:36 “If this fixed order departs from before me," says the Lord, "then shall the descendants of Israel cease from being a nation before me forever.”

Malachi 3:6 “I the Lord do not change; therefore you, sons of Jacob, are not consumed."

Acts 1:7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has fixed by His own authority."

Acts 17:31 ...because He has fixed a Day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed, and of this He has given assurance to all humans by raising Him from the dead.”

Second Timothy 2:13 ...if we are faithless, He remains faithful, because He does not deny himself.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

Human calendars (such as the Gregorian) are inaccurate concoctions which ultimately partition years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, and seconds somewhat inaccurately -- so much so that every so often a "leap day" is added to the month of February.

Thus, their wrong definition of what even a "second" is in terms of duration is a bit too short.

But God's awesome time-and-space-measurable-and-measured order is perfectly FIXED, IMMUTABLE, and COMPLETELY DEPENDABLE!

Such is consistent with the logical and accurate conclusion that God created everything in ADULT or ALREADY-COMPLETELY-FUNCTIONING form, such as tree seeds, sprouting tree seeds, budding trees emerging out of the ground, already-grown trees, non-birthed and already-fully-functioning Adam and fully-functioning Eve (probably BOTH created with "belly-button" navels). Thus, the anti-young-Earth heresy of http://godandscience.org is adequately refuted.

Consider the poor monks who, after many years of loneliness and frustration, discovered that their ERRANT copies of scripture misread CELIBATE instead of CELIBRATE!

When one's computer asks for a pass code to proceed, one will relentlessly remain in Frustration Hell if one types in a euphemism or synonym INSTEAD of what the pass code PRECISELY is.

Should we expect any LESS perfection of "the Word of the Lord which resides forever" relating to the Bible's original autographic Hebrew Old-Testament and Greek New-Testament Received Text wording (and we're NOT even referring to the usually-accurate English King James Version!).

Job 26:7b literally says:

He hung (Strong's Word# 8518) the earth (Strong's Word# 776) on nothing (Word# 1099)

Isaiah 40:22 =...He who sits (Word# 3427) over the circle of (#2329) the earth (Word# 776)...

The circle of the Earth? WHAT does THAT infer? A flat Earth upon which from the highest mountain Satan could show Christ all the kingdoms of the world?

The Greek word for corners used in Rev. 7:1 is g(o)nias with the (o) standing for the Greek letter omega, not omicron. The Greek word for corners used in Rev. 20:8 is g(o)niais. However, the Hebrew word used for four WINDS of the earth in Isaiah 11:12 is Strong's Word# 3671 for winds . Should FOUR CORNERS be instead translated: FOUR DIRECTIONS? Check me out to see if your Bible verifies that!]

Whether the King James Version English words of translation are used, the Revised Standard Version English words of translation used, or the English words of some other translation from the inerrant Masoretic Old-Testament Hebrew and Scrivener/Trinitarian New-Testament Greek Texts, there is frequently a question in the minds of non-gullible educated thinking people WHAT English translation words should be taken B>literally contrasted with those English translation words which should be taken figuratively as metaphors.

Certainly, no fair-minded, honest, and non-prejudiced SCIENTIST would want to base PRESUMPTIONS on allegorical lingo NOT intended to be taken literally, and build some ridiculous case on THAT!

With that in mind, when Scripture mentions that the SUN did this or that, does the ORIGINAL autograph-accurate, infallible, Spirit-inspired, Hebrew Old-Testament or Greek New-Testament Text LITERALLY mean the Sun - or instead SUNLIGHT from the sun?

Or a figurative way of saying the EARTH ITSELF was ROTATING? Why did not the Holy Spirit of Information disclose that the Earth itself was rotating (IF it was)?

Were the Divinely-inspired Hebrew Bible authors so STUPID linguistically that they did not have different and unique words for SUN vs. SUNLIGHT? We do in English....which is not the most efficient and advanced language in the world. I doubt if the Holy Spirit was an incompetent moron by mis-inspired Scripture authors to be inaccurate, deceptive, or vague about what precise words for the Bible were written down.

Of course, the same principle applies to whether autograph authors meant Earth ITSELF, or instead Earth's ORBITAL POSITIONING when stating that the Earth cannot be moved!

At this point, let's review some assumptions of present science, namely:

1. There is an obvious celestial-mechanics difference between ROTATION contrasted to REVOLUTION, in that ROTATION involves an object (typically a planet) turning around on its own axis...whereas REVOLUTION involves that object traveling in orbit around another object, or another object traveling in orbit around the original object.

In the case of Earth, an overwhelming of modern analysts CLAIM that our planet [SEEMS TO BE] both rotating [on its own axis) AND revolving around the Sun, with the Sun's tremendous gravitational force the proverbial string tied to this terrestrial ball which prevents Earth from flying out in space as it zooms along in orbit around the Sun.

It is, of course, reasonable to conclude that before God created the Sun on the 4TH Day of Creation Week, Earth was either motionless OR in motion headed in whatever direction.....until the Sun was created, then promptly existed the orbital regularity now appearing of which we are now familiar with?

2. As we recall, the Divinely-inspired (i.e. Holy-Spirit-inspired) book of REVELATION contains some not ALL, symbolic descriptions of REAL things and phenomena.

Similarly, the first 12 verses of Ecclesiastes says the earth resides FOREVER [which it will NOT, but instead will be DESTROYED SOMEDAY according to the 2nd Epistle of Saint Peter]; that there is NOTHING NEW under the sun [and what about post-1800s inventions of light bulbs, airplanes, automobiles, vacuum tubes, jet engines, x-ray machines, transistors, radar sets, plastics, and MUCH more?]; and later on in Ecclesiastes: It is good for the eyes to behold the sun [and be a damned FOOL for GOING BLIND STARING INTO THE SUN ALL DAY]?.

Can we apply this type of metaphorical language to the sun ITSELF standing still? Please do NOT misrepresent, revile, and blaspheme the Creator of Scripture as being some kind of mentally-deficient devious Master of Tricky Deceptive Terminology!

Pertaining to the sun's shadow (not the spherical Sun ITSELF!) on the sundial of Ahaz returning back 10 degrees as recorded in Isaiah 38:8, one rather literal English rendition of the ben Asher's Masoretic Old-Testament Hebrew Text (with Strong's Word numbers in parentheses) reads:

I (2009) bring back (7725) the shadow (6738) of the steps (4609) which (834) has gone down ((3381) in the steps of (4609) Ahaz (271) with the sun (8121) backward (322) ten (6235) steps (4609). So went back (7725) the sun (1821) ten (6235) steps 4609) by the steps (4609) which (834) it had gone down (3381).

By a precise literal rendition of the translated-as-exactly-as-possible Hebrew words used above, IS it obvious that the SHADOW on the sundial (steps) declined backwards because the SUN ITSELF declined backwards in the sky? Was light-bending refraction a viable explanation for what happened, which bizarre event (as with the next one mentioned) has been ingrained (to varying inaccuracies) into the folklore of both primitive and more advanced cultures on every part of this terrestrial globe?

Or did the Earth gradually or suddenly come to an abrupt standstill and then temporarily start rotating backwards?

We refer again to that HISTORICAL Biblical record of whether or not sun or instead sunlight in the sky (or Earth rotation?) was THE interpretation INTENDED is Joshua 10:12-14 where even the Bible describes that unusually long day (during which the Text states that Joshua commanded the sun and moon to stay STATIONARY, and such ACTUALLY occurred) as unique both anytime previous to that phenomenal event and anytime thereafter in the future.

The Hebrew words describing such (using Strong's word numbers) are:

And (1826) the sun (8121) and the moon (3394) stood still (5975) .....And STOOD STILL (5975) the sun (8121) in the middle of (2677) the heavens (8064) and not (3808) did hasten (213) to go down (935) for a day (3117) full (8549).

Again, WAS it that Earth stopped or slowed rotating on its axis, which affected the sunlight positioning in Earth's sky as seen from Earth's surface?

Numerous instances throughout the Bible contain explicit and exact wording pertaining to THE SUN (itself) - not merely SUN-LIGHT from the sun - rising, such as:

Genesis 19:23, Exodus 22:03, Judges 5:31, Psalm 50:1, Psalm 113:3, Ecclesiastes 1:5, Isaiah 13:10, Isaiah 45:6, Isaiah 59:19, Malachi 1:11, Nahum 3:17, James 1:11 (Greek word used = (e)lios with (e) representing the Greek letter eta and not epsilon) and Revelation 7:2.

What EXACTLY is in Earth's night skies?

It is important to re-emphasize that what are seen by humans in especially night skies from Earth are not the ACTUAL MASS of the celestial bodies themselves visible up there, but instead LIGHT from those objects WAY out in space FAR beyond Earth's "firmament" (called such in Genesis chapter one verses 6 and 7). We magi types are not looking at starlike images from some on-the-floor projector displaying images on some planetarium ceiling, but instead see astronomically-distant real spherical dots of light which are ACTUALLY huge and massive planets, stars, nebula, and galaxies in the vacuum of outer space.

[Incidentally, the NASA space probes have NOT detected any "ether" filling the vacuum of outer space]!

Pertaining to the positioning and orbital movement of distant celestial objects as seen from Earth's surface, the entity of "firmament" needs to be expounded upon.

In Genesis chapter one verses 6 and 7, Moses (inspired by God through His Holy Spirit) back-prophesied origin history which occurred way before Moses was ever born, and in which the LORD has revealed to us that Earth's firmament was created by Himself and then thus existed (probably consisting of at least a 10,000-foot-elevation troposphere, and possibly including a stratosphere and ionosphere).

This NEAR-Earth space (certainly NOT extending to the moon!) called "heaven" (in the Genesis 1:8 English renditions of some English-worded translations) apparently separated Earth's surface oceans and underground water reservoirs from the assumed pre-Noah-Flood Water Canopy surrounding Earth (now filled with cumulus, cirrus, and other types of water-vapor clouds).

In that sense, Earth's firmament CONTINUES to separate "waters beneath it" from "waters above it." The clear air of the firmament, though moving over Earth's surface which we experience as WINDS does not RADICALLY move starlight coming to us OUT of PLACE.

There is an account recorded in Biblical history described in Genesis 37 verse 9 in which long-coat Joseph told his family a dream in which he dreamed that the sun, moon, and eleven stars were bowing down to him. [Sounds geocentric!]...and maybe there is yet another planet in the "solar" system (or should such be re-named the GEO-system?) to account for eleven "star" planets? Is the Bible in error for (mis?-calling) PLANETS "stars?" What EXACTLY does THE PRECISE HEBREW Text STATE, and MEAN?

The non-Copernican/non-Galileon Ptolemic idea of a geocentric universe vs. a heliocentric one (which is to say: an EARTH-centered planetary system rather than a SUN-centered planetary system) was assumed by many scientists and theologians before the 16th century. Even Fred Hoyle, prominent astronomical observer and author, is said to have said:

"We know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and a geocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such a difference has no physical significance."

It DOES, however, have significance pertaining to REALITY, and both PROPER and CORRECT assessment of precisely how things actually ARE and in truth OPERATE!

It is well known that Albert Einstein thought much about relativistic perspectives as to differing frames of reference by both stationary and moving objects.

It has been said that [rebellious or brave and persecuted?] "science" reformers Copernicus, Kepler, and Galileo enlightened people of their time who had been "blinded" and "repressed" with the "non-scientific" maryolatrous pope-deity apocryphal catholic-church "superstition" of geocentric "absurdity."

This web author - from grade school on - has of course been brainwashed [or "educated" - depending upon your point of view] with HELIOCENTRIC "solar" system "knowledge" and "fact"...as have many of you who are reading what you are now reading.

In a geocentric universe, one in which ALL celestial objects revolve around a TILTED-axis Earth (hence causing SEASONS), questions arise pertaining to actual observable celestial mechanics of a geocentric cosmos.

First, it is PHENOMENAL that the Lord placed a lot of importance of the Earth in the Bible (which Earth PSEUDO-"scientists" have PRESUMED is merely an INSIGNIFICANT EVOLUTIONARY speck revolving around an INSIGNIFICANT average star TWO-thirds out on the spiral edge of one of the MYRIAD typical galaxies positioned WHEREVER in the vast space of the universe).

But does He not also place importance on the Sun - especially in comparing such to the Son of God Who is The Head of all things? DOES the opening verse of Genesis state that "In the beginning, God created the heavens and THE EARTH?" WHY such EMPHASIS placed on THE EARTH on which the Almighty Himself became incarnated in human form, died for the sins of all humanity for all time, and has eternal destinies for all of them?

WHY not INSTEAD state that in WHATEVER "beginning" "God" created the Big Bang, the Orion Nebula, the Andromeda Galaxy, or whatever else?

Indeed, if one HAD to worship either "Mother Earth"....or the Sun (and one must NEVER worship any such CREATED objects of potential idolatry)....WHICH one would be PREFERABLE?

The Sun (in contrast to Earth):

1) gives people ultraviolet sunburns
2) has non-regulated light compared to candles, flashlights, light bulbs, mercury-vapor lamps, lasers, etc.
3) goes away at dusk and stays away all night until dawn
4) is too bright to look directly at most of the day
5) does not have the variety of colors and shapes compared to myriad-variety entities found on Earth
6) is at times lethally hot and not comfortably cool like Earth
7) cannot be breathed on, walked on, run on or slept on - contrasted with Earth

I have noticed that certain people I have become aware of who presume a geocentric planetary system also presume that the English-lettered King James Version was etched in Hebrew-lettered stone on Mt. Sinai by the finger of God the form of the Ten Commandments given to Moses, and that Jesus read not the Hebrew Scripture in the synagogues or temple, but instead the English-language King James Version, of whichever revisions.

TWO INSURMOUNTABLE OBSTACLES AGAINST EVOLUTIONISTS

There are two overwhelming problems evolutionists encounter in their presumptions about origins source and the extent of time relating to life-form development.

The first obstacle involves the necessary SOURCE (or SOURCES) of BEGINNING for all life-form (and other) entities - no matter how simple OR complex.

The second obstacle involves the necessity of the state of COMPLETENESS of entities with ALL their DETAILED INTRICATE PARTS PRESENT and FUNCTIONING for life-form existence - even BEFORE they REPRODUCE and VARIATE WITHIN LIKE KINDS thereafter.

Evolutionists in general do NOT like to speculate on the Entity (of WHATEVER nature and type) WHO (not "what") was or were VITAL in the INITIAL EVENT of the START of life-form existence. It is logical to assume (not "presume") that the Creator of such lifeforms was (and if not mortal, is ) certainly equal to, if not superior to, the lifeforms [ He ] created.

It is not possible, for example, for a human to create an entity which entity cannot be controlled, repaired, shut down, and restarted....by himself; it is also not be possible for a rock to create a living insect, nor a bird to create a human being. So "God" (and we will call Him that with the male-gender reference) of necessity HAS to be superior to both humans and angels He created.

I, myself, cannot even create a living dog or cat, virus, ameba, or even SO-CALLED "simple" cell!

Many evolutionists mindlessly and non-scientifically blatter that they have "faith" that "scientists" will "someday discover" who created what.

Obviously, they - unlike TRUE scientists who take EVERYTHING into consideration - ignore the historical record of trustworthy believable men who wrote time-tested DIVINELY-inspired Scripture who LOGICALLY deduced and declared that "the LORD" created and thus began all entities we humans are able to perceive with our GIVEN senses.

Biblical authors ELABORATED on the IDENTITY of that Creator as being "Jesus Christ."

Regarding the second obstacle, applicable examples will be given.

A human body (with all its cellular and molecular parts) cannot function WHATSOEVER without those CERTAIN and MANY parts simultaneously present and functioning. Is it NON-REALISTIC to presume that all those intricate parts (including liver, stomach, intestines, lungs, muscles, brain, eyes and ears, and much more with all their precise myriad DNA and RNA components) "evolved" all of a sudden (even from VASTLY different APES or whatever which might SEEM closest to humankind) so as to be both PRESENT and FUNCTIONING for the new life form to exist.

And WHAT closes the gap between PRESUMED "transitional" kinds? WHERE are the FOSSILS as proof?

Hence we have the ancient but valid record of first-human Adam and Eve being created as FULLY-FUNCTIONAL ADULT beings - rather than not only NOT being born from someone or something else as infants, but also NOT evolved [by mutations or whatever] from lower lifeforms. The same idea also even applies to FULLY-formed stars, galaxies, nebula, etc. plus enroute-to-Earth starlight from such created during Creation Week -- ALL being brought into being ALL AT ONCE by "the Lord" on Day FOUR of Creation Week.

The same principle holds true with vehicles. Of necessity there MUST be [BOTH present AND functioning ] an ignition system (including spark plugs, rotor, cap, points, ignition coil....or equivalent with electronic ignition), oil, various crucial engine parts, and gas for the vehicle to even start. It almost goes without saying that each of those parts did NOT "evolve" (thus neither SIMULTANEOUSLY "evolved") individually nor as a group in some factory. [Remember the well-taken ridiculous scenario of a set of encyclopedias coming into existence from an explosion in a printing shop, or a set of chimps randomly typing up all the volumes in the Library of Congress over zillions of years]!

Though there are SOME similarities between monkeys and mankind (as there are between Volkswagens and Mack trucks), one CANNOT HONESTLY nor LOGICALLY say that they both RANDOMLY "evolved" with OR without intelligent designers.

If one chooses to debate and nitpick, one can of course haggle over dictionary definitions of "design" and "intelligent" without blaspheming nor reviling Deity who Created it all, whether submitted to prejudiced or non-prejudiced peer view of whoever one defines as a "scientist" functioning "scientifically" in "scientific methods."

Both VWs and Mack trucks have tires, a steering wheel, brakes, and so on...but NEITHER are EXACTLY IDENTICAL with each other. How much LESS apes which cannot communicate either verbally or in writing to each other nor humans - which (NOT "who") like dogs can be trained to do limited tricks but in the eyesight of which there is no moral nor immoral sentient recognition.

To repeat, there are PROFOUND differences between apes and humans pertaining to SPEECH and LANGUAGE, plus COGNITION CAPACITY involving KNOWLEDGE PERCEPTION and ACQUISITION - especially in the area of ethics. [Ever gaze into a gorilla's MINDLESS passing gaze at you]? Moreover, it HAS ALWAYS BEEN that way, and STILL is.

Though school students in satanic dis-education centers are coerced through arm-twisting-like extortion of passing grades to profess the heresy of "evolution" by non-thinking biased-against-truth educrats, without ANY REASONABLE rationalizations to base "evolution" upon, perpetuating a continuing "belief" in "evolution" and its LAUGHABLE LENGTHY TIME PERIODS is NOT intellectual HONESTY, but instead a NON-SCIENTIFIC blind gullibility, and oftentimes proud-snot STUPIDITY and belligerence against the Creator's plain-to-see phenomena of nature, easy-to-comprehend physical laws governing such, and DIVINE record of HISTORY in His HOLY BIBLE pertaining (among other things) to the VERY LIMITED NARROW time frame in which lifeforms first came into being: approximately 7000 years ago.

To drive one final lethal everything-reproduces-according-to-its-own-kind stake into the vampire heart of "evolution," savor some perceptive and needed searing sarcasm from Job 11:12 =

The opening chapter of Romans exposes those who facetiously reject the plain truth about what they already know about God and the characteristics of what He has created. In the Final Exam of Life, any student who fails to acknowledge said obvious truth is to be defined by one definitive word: F O O L !

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